Although I have listened to very little modern classical music, I suspect you are right.

Although many film scores are surely classical music.  For example the Star Wars theme - is that classical music?  It's all the same instruments and stuff like innit.  This is probably a good time to get a little education.  In my mind, 'classical' music is stuff that gets played by orchestras with violins and cellos and stuff. 

I very much like the art style in the Team Shanghai Alice games. I figured Joewoof might have been implying that there's something exploitative in the dialogue that makes the games not so innocent after all. That's what had me concerned. And I'm still curious about that R-Type comment, even if it's not really relevant to the main discussion.

I think what makes classical music classical is not so much the instrumentation, but the form of the music.
Basically the structure of it, like how many pop songs will go verse chorus verse chorus etc, there are different set structures for different styles of classical music. For example a sonata form, suite, symphony, concerto or fugue.

As with describing any genre there are of course exceptions. Some experimental composers have veered away from not only orchestral instrumentation, but also any sort of traditional structure. I'm thinking in particular the likes of Stockhausen and Cage. Others use mixtures of different instruments but rather than a free structure, use something very rigid and repetitive such as Steve Reich or Philip Glass. Glass in fact has done a lot of film scores as well in his time.

So Its perhaps debatable, but I think the main thing seperating film scores to classical music is that usually the film score will be written to onscreen events, though in some composers cases such as john williams, will include a big theme or several, which can bee seen as peices in their own right.
Often the arrangement/structure of film scores is altered right up to the last minute as film scenes are deleted/added shortened/lengthened.

Star wars in particular is noted for a lot of similarities to opera, particularly something used by the composer Wagner which became termed the "leit motif"
basically Williams composed many different themes and each one belongs to a certain character or setting.
Opera also tends to also be structured in a certain way, so in that sense again I suppose they cant be seen as the same thing, I wonder if maybe music for ballet would be a better comparison though, as presumably the composer would have to work with a dance choregrapher.

Joewoof, you sound extremlly whiny with what youve posted here, you act like the guy owes you his life. Well word up man, cause the world does not revolve around you or your little game team. Your world might, but his world might be diffrent. If anything you have just shown a lack of respect for how someone feels or thinks.

i, too, have never heard or seen anywhere that zun was the creator of r-type.
nor can i find any evidence upon research.
it doesn't really seem to make sense considering how long ago r-type was created (not to mention the polarized game/aesthetic design philosophies between r-type and zun's games).

i'll continue to dig, though  :)  be interesting to sherlock upon the truth of this matter.

Yup. I've listened Morse's latest album. The music is pretty good, doesn't go anywhere though. But the lyrics....well, they're all "god-crazy", as you say.

I'm not sure what classical music is for me. Lately I've been veering off the path of "form" and moving into more avant-garde stuff. That Hungerian piece in audiology (now called Miskamoros), is an example of that.



 

this thread is so slick!

or should i say, all of the completely unrelated threads crammed into this single topic - each running independently - are so slick!

 ;)

Srehpog:

Well, I never expected the rest of the community to agree with me. That doesn't usually happen anyway, in most cases so far. That, of course, does not mean that I am right or wrong. After all, I can easily say that it's a cultural difference. Maybe it's meaningless, but at the very least, he knows how important Eo is to me, and I want to get the message across I'm willing to put my position here on the line.


I think we're putting the focus on the wrong thing. The game merely amplified his craze, but the craze was there - and dangerous - to begin with. The sound guy was the one who introduced Touhou (or however it's translated), and now he's severely regretting it.

You know it's a addiction when you ask him "will you snatch a copy of 'little magical girls' out of my hands if i bring it?" and he goes silent for a minute. It may be better to also place this within an... erotic context, I must add.


I heard it from the sound guy, and one of his hobbies is data mining. Dude, I know for a fact that you're reading this. Stop lurking and post a source (it may be in Japanese though).


Yes, I've shown disrespect and expressed it in a fashion that can easily be seen as "whiny". I don't deny that.

Though, do take note that it's quite normal in East Asian cultures for a "mentor" to criticize his "apprentice", although this is indeed over-the-top. It's time I stop playing "mentor", but he has to stop following people, be it a "role model" or his mother's orders. He really must begin forging his own path.

I'm not sure about how other cultures function, but here, in this collectivistic environment, anyone who lives in their own, singular world is an outcast in a fantasy land. It's a shared world.

yeah, Dude!  i'm burning for this info, too  ;D

Well in America, people do as they see fit. :D